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    New guy needin some questions answered.

    Hey guys....i was wonering what all i would need to do airbags on a 2001 X Blaze.....i've got one X already bagged but it was already done when i bought it.....i've never done this before.....i know i've got to have the kit (i want f,b,s,s) and the brackets but what else do i need? such as do you have to have drop spindles or can you do it without them? and do you have to do a 4 link or can you just do a C-notch? I'm using stock 16" X wheels for now maybe a set of 17's later but i don't think i'll go bigger than that.
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    So you want a complete kit which'll have all hardware, tank(s), compressor(s), probably have 2 batteries for your trucks, if you also have a stereo it's a good idea anyways. With drop spindles you'll sit lower up front, so you may as well do it right the first time around.

    When it comes to a 4 link vs. just a leaf/block/bag setup..you can't compare. Do it right with the 4link and be able to lay out completely. You'll need a bit more than just a c-notch also, but it'll depend on if you want to cut your truck (rear cargo area) or not..

    Why the hell so many X's? You get them cheap or something?

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    the first X was the stock one (which i'm just usin for a daily driver), the second was the bagged one cuz i liked my first one and i found this one pretty cheap, and the last one i bought the other day at an auction. it was a rollover and i gave $300 for it, interior was perfect and it had low low miles so i thought what the hell why not get it

    what would it do if i didn't use spindles or a 4 link? i just want a smooth ride with a big drop
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    If you don't use spindles then your frontend wont lay down as good..it's a 2" difference from laying out sometimes..just depends on wheel/tires size etc.

    With a 4link the ride will be better than a block/leaf combo and you'll be able to lay the frame out in the back. With a block/leaf setup, you most likely wont lay even though I've seen it come VERY close before..and partially laying out before.

    A 4link is just the right way, and when spindles are only a couple hundred more..well with what you spend on bags and stuff it's not much more to add on.

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    If you dont 4 link the rear end, your going to also have to run sleeve bags in the rear from what im told... I would suggest getting drop spindals up front for sure.. you could live with a 3 inch notch in the rear but deffintly wont lay out.. thats going to require some serious modifications to the entire rear end of the truck ...
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    No..you can use any type of bag you want in the rear. Sleeves are just a bit easier I believe...but I've seen both used.

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    No the sleeve bags used on light duty trucks are rated less than a 2500 or 2600 # bag. That makes them ride smoother because they are designed to support a lighter load. I personally like real bags myself but it's your truck...
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    Originally posted by Dragginblazer
    I personally like real bags myself but it's your truck...
    I guess all the semi trucks on the road running sleeve bags are running imaginary bags then...:confused:

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    Ever used regular sleeve bags on a lever setup? They don't work too well.
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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dragginblazer
    Ever used regular sleeve bags on a lever setup? They don't work too well. [/QUOTE

    Ever do anything correctly ?
    If you learn to read and understand the bag's specs, you will then understand what bag to use where.
    They don't work well in a lever system because the spring rate is not high enough.
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    I'm talking about the bag flexing.

    What are the differances in spring rates at 50 psi between a 2600 and the sleeve bag your talking about?
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    Originally posted by Dragginblazer
    I'm talking about the bag flexing.

    What are the differances in spring rates at 50 psi between a 2600 and the sleeve bag your talking about?
    It's about 50% at 100 psi. So a 2600 mounted on a lever at around 2:1 ratio would be equal to a F9000 at 1:1.
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    Whats the differance at 50 psi? Who drives at 100 psi in the rear anyways?
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    Semi's use both types of bag just to clear that up..lol Take it up in PM if you 2 are just going to argue over Airbagin' a ride.

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    Yes but mainly sleeve bags.
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