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    You can see that the is now further away from the inner fender. The problem I ran into is moving the rear diff back 2" started having a weird effect cause I'm moving further up the arch of the spring. I planed to secure the rear by making something similar to these.




    Maybe I'll try just an inch instead of 2". Or perhaps I'll make some shackles so that they're not so close to the fenders. ???




    Here you see the rear it reassembled with and the body it back on. I tried rolling the chassis out so I could take pictures of it 95% finished and so I can clean up my garage but it was bumping into the boards that support the body. So I figured I'd put the body back on. It's been sitting up on them blocks a little to long for comfort. ;D That and I wanted to see the new stance with the 2" lowering spindles and the 3" block in back.




    From this angle you can see how the 18" wheels will be very close to the wheel leaving very little of a gap, which is what I wanted. The tires will tuck into the fenders. I was just wanting to see how things looked.




    These are going to look nice. I'll have them on next progress post.




    She sits fairly low. Even though a only did a 2/3 drop it seems almost slammed when I stand next to it. I'm really loving the stance and I'm sure it'll go down another 1-1.5" once everything is in and settles.




    The front end aligned up nicely. The passenger wheel was 2" further inside the fender and make the car look off. Now, they're even and have the same wheel gap.




    Here's the problem I was running into. The arch of the leaf spring combined with the lowering blocks pushed the wheels forward. I can move the axle back that would just amplify the effect.

    I'll get her sitting right again. Next time. If it ain't one thing it's another.


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    Well, I got the rear mocked up and hand tightened. The wheels fit nicely and look cool. I've got a bout 1/2" on each side from the fender hitting the side wall. I'm sure I could get more by slightly opening the bottom of the body since it's not permanently mounted just yet.






    Today when I get home from work I'm going to roll the chassis out and get some pictures. Then clean up the garage and organize my engine parts and tools so I can start build the motor. Finally.

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    Here's a few pictures of the size on my garage, per RaidMagic's request, and some shots of how the black vette wheels look.


















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    Any idea if the hood is going to close over the motor or will you need a big hole for it to stick out?
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    project look f**ing sick dude..but those rear brake lines look liek spagetti
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    looking great!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smsmith36 View Post
    Any idea if the hood is going to close over the motor or will you need a big hole for it to stick out?
    It'll fit under the stock hood. :cool:

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    Thanks for the compliments!

    A little bit of Bad and Good News...kinda. :rolleyes: Lemonade out of lemons.

    So I started taking the short block apart this weekend. I got far enough that I noticed some play in the #1 piston rod. I knew right away what it was and I didn't even bother to check cause I trusted the guy I traded motors with. Lesson learned. :mad:


    The BAD:

    So the rod bearings spun on the #1 and #2 rod journals. It seems as though the engine wasn't ran long which is good cause there's minimal wear. The crank looks like it'll clean up with a .020 or .030 grind.

    To get the 355 rotating assembly back to spec it'll take grinding and polishing the crank, having the assembly balanced, and either new connecting rods or machining to get them back to spec. After all those costs it'll probably be cheaper just to get a new rotating assembly balanced and ready to drop in from the manufacturer.


    The Good...

    I'm thinking about just bumping up my motor to a 383 ci. The cost of new parts and or machine work will be well within the range of a new 383 bottom end balanced.

    I've also been looking into just getting new set of Speed Pro dished 4.030" hypereutectic pistons with a 1.425" wrist pin height, a new 3.75" Eagle internal balance crankshaft, and buying two replacement connecting rods. I found a whole set of 8 for $20 (stock set). I'll just upgrade the connecting rod bolts to APR. Then have the whole assembly balanced. I already have new piston rings bearings, flexplate and damper that'll fit an internal balance 383 crank. The cost will be less as well.

    I did the math and with 12cc dish pistons, the .015 shim head gasket, 64cc heads, and a .021 deck height I'll be right at 10.27:1 CR. Which will be fine with the vortec heads cause you can get away with .5 more CR and still run pump gas. :cool:


    I've got some thinking to do, more saving and selling of parts. :mad: So the building of my engine has been put on hold for another month at least until I save the cash and have decided which direction to go.

    I should pick up about another 40-50 hp and tq though so that's good. I'll see if I can't get someone to desktop dyno my combo as a 383.

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    Well, some good news. I ordered an Eagle Specialty Products internal balance stroker crankshaft for my 350.

    http://store.summitracing.com/partde...P-10350375057I


    And I bought some (383) Speed Pro dish pistons.

    http://store.summitracing.com/partde...t=STL-H859CP30


    Both parts will work well with my stock 5.7" rods. So I'll save some $$$ there. Coolest part is I did some shopping around and found the crank for $231 here...

    https://www.horsepowerparts.com/inde...oduct_id=21684


    and a set of 8 pistons here...

    http://www.kmjent.com/cart/product.p...9&bestseller=Y


    ...I called summit up and said, "I'd like to buy these parts (I listed stock #s and he gave me the pricing) but I found them cheaper here (I then gave him the website URLs)". They beat their competitors prices by $1 for each product. Summit has a beat-a-price guarantee so I thought I'd see if it was baloney. It wasn't. I got the parts for $407 with shipping. At Summit's pricing it would've been $522 total with shipping. So I saved over $100 smackers.

    So I have all my parts, or they're being shipped, and the motor can go together soon. That is after hot tanking, decking, and balancing. I might not have the assembly balanced if the bob weight of my pistons, pins, rings, bearings, cap screws and rods are fairly close to the neutral bob weight of 1825 +/- 2% from Eagle. Maybe balancing will be cheap enough if I give the machine shop the bob weight and they only have to balance the crank? We'll see...

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    Got a bad crank. One of the journals was scratched. The replacement 3.75" crank came in and it was in much better shape.




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    Update...

    I started disassembling the engine. I plan to even remove the freeze plugs, oil gallery plugs and cam bearings myself as well as install them to cut down on costs and to get some experience doing so.

    Used some bolts and an arc welding rod (with the flux coating knocked off) to catch the piston.




    And some fuel hose press on the rod bolts to protect the cylinder walls.




    Works pretty nice. I don't have to worry about them falling on the floor without help. These will be up for sale. They're forged 4.030.




    Cylinder bores are pretty much flawless by looking. No scratches or groves worn in from the pistons. Hone marks are still visible.




    I rebuilt the carb. Here it is before.




    Disassembled.




    I sandblast the body and other parts that didn't have any jets. Cleaned it with a can of carb cleaner. Then I scrubbed it with warm water and light soap. Then blew the water out with compressed air and used a blow drier to completely dry it out before reassembly.




    Cleaned up parts...




    Cleaned up parts...the floats look really nice and new. ;D




    And the rebuilt car. All new gaskets, seals, pump, linkage kit added, etc. Ready to rock!


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    IMO, Cam bearings are more challenging than the average first timer should be attempting. Takes a special tool and careful alignment.

    A lot of shops have a special for hottanking and slapping the cam bearings back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjsp View Post
    IMO, Cam bearings are more challenging than the average first timer should be attempting. Takes a special tool and careful alignment.

    A lot of shops have a special for hottanking and slapping the cam bearings back in.
    I hear ya'. I have the cam install tool and I'm aware of the oil holes in the cam bearings. I'm going to give it a try. Doesn't seem like it will be too hard if you know what you're doing. I know what to do but have never actually done the install. Just watch it over and over on the Box Wrench DVD.

    :D If I have troubles getting them in I'll take it to the shop. I sure would like to be able to do this myself.

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    It was nice knowing that the new bearings were installed and ready to slide parts together rather than guessing that i did it all right. well worth the money. hot tanked machined new cam bearings freeze plugs and crank prepped with the right bearings wouldnt run you much. I went a step further and got some x-rods reconditioned new pistons assembled, rings and decked for $800.
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    can i add the vortec to this 4.3 if it didnt come with one?
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    Dropped the block off for hot tanking, magna flux, honing, rods resized and ARP 383 bolts install, decking to 9.020 and balancing of the rotating assembly.



    Will be done Friday, if nothing comes up, and will start putting it together this weekend. Hopefully...

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